186: ‘Good News, My House Burned Down’ With Matthew Panzarino

The Talk Show With John Gruber - A podcast by Daring Fireball / John Gruber

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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show for an in-depth discussion of last week's "future of the Mac Pro" round table discussion between a handful of Apple executives and journalists who cover the company. We talk about what went wrong with the 2013 Mac Pro design, speculate on the timeline of when Apple made this decision, why touchscreen Macs are almost certainly a bad idea even though a lot of people think they want one, and more.

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