The 1.5 Order Position: An exploration of "knowing" and "not-knowing" in therapy with Ged Smith.

In this episode we talk with Dr Ged Smith about his ideas on taking a 1.5 order position in therapy. Ged introduces us to the meaning of the 1.5 order position and shows us ways to operate within and between first and second order positions from his own experience. In this podcast we discuss the therapeutic conundrums and tensions between the therapists position as expert and collaborator; having certainty and exploring and knowing and not-knowing.