Wirtz, Odegaard, Fernandes: What makes a talisman?

There’s a new wonderkid on the block, and his name is Florian Wirtz.  He has established himself as the man to carry the creative responsibility for Bayer Leverkusen. But how does he measure up against the world’s best in his position?   And is there a danger in becoming over-reliant on one player to make things happen? Host: Ayo Akinwolere With: Phil Hay & Mark Carey Executive Producer: Adey Moorhead Producer: Mike Stavrou Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices