183. Kaigan Corrie; Beyond the Uniform: Humanizing Prison Officers and Ex-Prisoners

In this podcast conversation, Naomi and David speak with Kaigan Carrie, the host of the Evolving Prisons podcast and a PhD researcher studying the relationship between prison officer culture and well-being. Kaigan explains that her podcast aims to share the stories of prison officers, governors, and ex-prisoners to shed light on the realities of life in prison and promote rehabilitation. They discuss the importance of focusing on the nuances of the prison experience rather than glamorizing crime, as many true crime podcasts tend to do. Kaigan emphasizes the need for society to understand the work that prison officers do and the challenges they face. She believes that prison officers should have a voice and wants to be a platform for them to share their experiences. Kaigan also highlights the differences in training between countries, specifically mentioning the lack of substance misuse training for prison officers in Scotland compared to Norway. She believes that proper training is crucial for addressing issues like drug use in prisons. The conversation then shifts to Kaigan's passion for well-being and her desire to encourage people to create lives that truly fulfill them. She shares her core values, which include connection, health, freedom, and growth. Kaigan emphasizes the importance of addressing mental health and dealing with the things that are going on in one's head to find true happiness. Lastly, Kaigan discusses her collaboration with Rob Hosking on a magazine called The Rise of Happiness, which focuses on well-being and provides expert tips and research on various aspects of health. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a more nuanced understanding of prison life, the importance of proper training for prison officers, and the significance of prioritizing well-being in society. https://www.evolvingprisons.com/ https://riseofhappiness.com/about/

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What types of organisation, institution and industries are performing work that tests human resilience and evokes powerful feelings of shame, sadness, fear and disgust? Does working with people who commit serious crimes like rape and murder affect the staff who work with them? How do you overcome adversity and protect yourself from burnout or compassion fatigue? Naomi Murphy and David Jones have decades of experience of working in prisons and other forensic settings. They host experts across a range of disciplines to discover what are some of the challenges that make a difference in fostering resilience and creativity in those who live and work in challenging organisations