The highs and lows of being a super-achiever

In this episode…Jacqueline de Rojas CBE spent her childhood trying to be invisible. Now, as president of techUK, she's one of the most powerful women in tech. She tells us how she went from survivor to thriver – and why she still sets her standards impossibly high: “Even if I got to a good place in everyone else’s eyes, it wouldn’t be enough for me,” she admits.Crystal Eisinger has just turned 30 and already heads up marketing strategy and operations at Google. Feeling the weight of a huge workload, she’s trying to set some boundaries and is learning to ask for help: “I wake up every day and throw myself against a brick wall, expecting that brick wall to move,” she says. “Surprise, surprise, it doesn’t budge. I just bruise myself.”They discuss the downfalls of being “hyper-vigilant”, how to have honest conversations with your boss, and why the term “mentor” needs a rebrand.Top three takeaways:• People don’t always need answers – sometimes they just need space to be heard.• If you’re struggling in the ocean, find a swim lane. Work out what “good enough” looks like.• Dress for the mood you want to be in (not the mood you’re already in). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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In each episode, our host Kate Bassett teams up two women from the same sector but at very different stages in their career. They share their wisdom and worries, highs and lows, leadership lessons and nuggets of advice – and they tell us what they’re doing to support and empower other women.This is mentoring on a grand scale… and you’re listening in.It was Madeleine Albright who said, “There’s a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.” This is our version of podcast heaven… thefoldlondon.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.