Amanda de Cadenet and Holly Whitaker

 In this special episode of The Conversation, Amanda de Cadenet invites Holly Whittaker, author of the bestselling Quit like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol,  on for a frank discussion about their active recovery. Together, they discuss one of their hardest years yet, Holly’s experience with psychedelics, and whether alcoholism is, in fact, a gendered disease.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Get full access to The Conversation with Amanda de Cadenet at amandadecadenet.substack.com/subscribe