S08E03: Returning Cultural Objects

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We’re joined by special guest hosts Jeremy Uden and Marina de Alarcón from the Pitt Rivers Museum as we discuss the return of cultural objects. What are some of the attitudes we’ve encountered, and what is the role of the conservator in this? Kloe talks to Mark Furness about preparing objects for return, and Daniel Schwartz about how we can become better facilitators. Also tune in for a review of ’Plundered Skulls and Stolen Spirits’ by Chip Colwell. 00:00:52 Repatriation or restitution? 00:03:01 Attitudes in the sector 00:10:47 Where did we get these things to begin with? 00:13:38 Knowing what you’ve got 00:16:41 Role of conservators 00:24:32 Reactions and dialogue 00:28:19 Stewardship not ownership 00:31:23 Gains, not losses 00:37:35 Our place within restitution 00:44:06 Interview with Mark Furness 00:55:58 Interview with Daniel Schwartz 01:04:55 Review: ’Plundered Skulls and Stolen Spirits’ Show Notes: - Repatriation vs restitution: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/cultural-property-advice/restitution-and-repatriation/ - About NAGPRA: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nagpra/index.htm - Pitt Rivers removal of human remains from display: https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2020/09/pitt-rivers-museum-removes-shrunken-heads-from-display-after-ethical-review/ - Bronze cockerel returned to Nigeria: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/nov/27/bronze-cockerel-to-be-returned-to-nigeria-by-cambridge-college - Museum Ethnographers Group: http://www.museumethnographersgroup.org.uk/en/ - Plundered Skulls and Stolen Spirits: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plundered-Skulls-Stolen-Spirits-Americas/dp/022629899X Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Jeremy Uden, and Marina de Alarcón. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2020.