TROS 4: Handful of Ostinato (Minutes 16-20 with Katharine Coldiron)

Palpatine has returned, and author Katharine Coldiron joins me to discuss minutes 16-20 of The Rise of Skywalker. We talk about the logic of leitmotifs, songs vs. performances, Bugs, the storytelling matrix, conveying information through image vs. sound, and more.  Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 4:51 - Microphone speculation. 13:55 - "Somehow, Palpatine returned." 21:34 - The logic of leitmotifs. Number of leitmotif statements in TLJ vs TROS. 29:09 - It's not just about leitmotifs. 33:30 - Song vs. performance. 35:42 - Do the generations of film composers after John Williams still listen to Tchaikovsky, Wagner, etc? 41:11 - Ostinato not on the soundtrack (was it added in a later cut of the film?). Bugs Bunny flourish. 47:14 - Force theme moment (1st time in these minutes) that Katharine isn't a fan of. 55:19 - Rey's theme and the storytelling matrix. 1:07:40 - Concert suites. 1:12:48 - Is this reminiscent of a Berlioz opera? 1:18:52 - "We Go Together" and the Friendship motif. 1:31:47 - Funny choir moment. 1:36:09 - Force theme moment that Katharine is a fan of. 1:40:14 - "70% of information is conveyed through image, whereas 30% is conveyed through sound. 70% of emotion is conveyed through sound and 30% through image." 1:46:39 - When leitmotifs do heavy information-lifting. 1:54:36 - Distributing the music, dialogue, and sound effects across the frequency spectrum. 1:55:52 - Knights of Ren theme (and why we like it). 2:06:51 - The grammar of Star Wars landing shots. 2:10:30 - J.J. Abrams, old-school film directing, camerawork trends, composer parallels. 2:26:15 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Sideways video: https://youtu.be/L_8-dWSLDWI?si=hA80Yu-67aI23AZ8 Les Troyens (opera by Hector Berlioz): https://youtu.be/JVuj-b0zXVE?si=tU7YPcEZpz8GEO7h Another Happy Landing: https://youtu.be/RAWYMxygeBk?si=roWNQk3qjjTGylf5 Star Wars Holiday Special (opening music): https://youtu.be/6hH8rxarVG8?si=uFXqoEg7EYnvEcg7&t=201 Hollywood Harmony (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/hollywood-harmony/ ESB 11: Free-Floating Motivic Particles (with Frank Lehman): https://youtu.be/N_jXuEWiaLY?si=d-JV7XH2e2X0-Gm5 My review of Pauline García Viardot's chamber opera: https://www.sfcv.org/articles/review/last-sorcerer-enchanting-fairy-tale-opera-resurrected Bizarre Albums Lapti Nek episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/bizarre-singles-lapti-nek-from-return-of-the-jedi/id1471679636?i=1000473552119 Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: Sith Seduction Emperor Force Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) Friendship Knights of Ren (Slow Form) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 3. "We Go Together" OST 9. "We Go Together" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Adventure. Heart. Saga. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? Is John Williams more of a genius or a craftsman? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? Gone Girl composed (by Atticus Ross and Trent Reznor). The Truman Show soundtrack. Fight Club (by the Dust Brothers). --------------- Guest: Katharine Coldiron Landing shots video: https://youtu.be/nbAcX60dSNs Website: https://kcoldiron.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/ferrifrigida Look at all the books she's written! https://kcoldiron.com/books-chapbooks/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram