This week, Alex is back from an eventful stint in Manhattan, and Em joins us from her holiday to talk to Sophie Butler. Soph shares how being experimental and playful with makeup and fashion has helped her become her best self. She talks about being unapologetically joyful despite the critics, and the perils of trying to be relatable.Follow Soph on Instagram @sophjbutlerShow timestamps:Good, Bad & Awkward - 00:03:46Interview with Soph - 00:25:18Is It Just Me? - 01:23:22Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [email protected] by Mindler, use code DELETE22 for 50% off your first therapy session.Mindler is an online therapy app, offering video call sessions with psychologists. Self-help programmes are also available in the app, covering a range of diagnoses.Produced & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.