What would the world be like without artists?

Making things better and making better things - A podcast by Mark Shayler's podcast from the Woodshed.

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Jess was a much bigger influence on my life than she realised. One of a group of art students that i met when i moved to London for my placement year in 1990. Jess is an artists that works with geometry and nature. Sustainability runs through her like "Blackpool" through a stick of rock. This is a rich conversation about the value of art in society, growing up in a slightly bohemian house in a normal street, and a tale of two fish pies. Utterly wonderful.

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