Will Thorndike - The Power of Long Holding Periods - [Invest Like the Best, EP.288]
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My guest today is Will Thorndike. I first spoke to Will in 2017 about his excellent book The Outsiders and his career in private equity. I titled that conversation: How Skilled Capital Allocators Compound Capital. In many ways this conversation continues where that one left off. Through the lens of his new project, a podcast called 50X, we explore the power of multi-decade holding periods and the shared characteristics of businesses that are able to compound returns at high rates for abnormally long periods of time. Please enjoy this discussion with my friend, Will Thorndike, and if you haven’t subscribed to 50X, I highly recommend doing so. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern SaaS platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus. ----- Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Show Notes [00:02:45] - [First question] - How working on The Outsiders project shaped his thinking [00:06:29] - His interest in long-term holding periods and dealing with multi-decade time horizons [00:09:42] - Shared characteristics among compounding machines [00:11:23] - Defining capital efficiency and the return on tangible capital metric [00:13:02] - An example of an attractive business that requires a lot maintenance CapEx [00:14:22] - Thoughts on the measurement of intangibles and whether or not he’d avoid great businesses that are intangible heavy [00:15:25] - Tangible ways capital efficiency rolls into compounding capacity [00:20:32] - Lessons learned about good game selection for companies [00:25:09] - An example of a decentralized structure and why it works so well [00:30:00] - What the best serial acquirers do for long-term holders [00:31:46] - Advantages of using debt for financing and acquisitions [00:33:39] - How different the future might be for young CEOs with capital allocator mindsets [00:39:09] - 3 companies that Housatonic Partners has owned for more than 25 years [00:40:29] - What made Karen Moriarty so good for so long [00:42:36] - The crossover between public and private investing and the virtues of each sector [00:47:10] - What is at the top of his wish list of the companies he wants to explore [00:50:25] - The development of investor conviction over time and what he’s learned about it [00:52:19] - Lessons learned about producing great media [00:53:43] - What he can teach us about deep research on companies with analysts [00:55:10] - Adjusting his thinking and investing in a high variance world