Ep 100: Justin Stefano and Philippe von Borries of Refinery29 on What They've Learned Two Years Later
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"The Partners - Revisited". This is the 100th episode of ‘Fearless Creative Leadership’. So what stands out 100 episodes in? What makes fearless creative leaders successful? If you’ve listened to even a few of these conversations you’ll know there are many themes. But, two show up over and over again. The best leaders are hopeful. And the best leaders listen. And that’s a real change in how the role of leadership has been defined for the last fifty years. In this episode, I sit down with my guests from Episode 1 - Justin Stefano and Philippe von Borries, the founders of Refinery29 - about what they've learned in the two years since our first conversation. Note: We talk about Zappos management structure and philosophy. It's called Holocracy.