Episode 162: Ways of Seeing

In episode 162, “Ways of Seeing,” Flourish and Elizabeth dig into their recent respective fannish experiences—and how those experiences differ from the way they’ve “done fandom” in the past. Flourish considers whether their masked conga-line participation at four consecutive Harry Styles concerts counts as “community”; Elizabeth manfully resists saying Lee Pace’s name out loud while describing her descent into obsession with AMC’s Halt and Catch Fire; and they both talk about breaking patterns of feeling and behavior, and what it means to be a different kind of fan. They also respond to a letter from past guest Anisa Khalifa on what reader-insert fic can—and can’t—do for diversity and representation.