245 - Interstellar

Eavesdropping at the Movies - A podcast by Jose Arroyo and Michael Glass

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Planet Earth is dying, dust storms are wiping out crops, and all-American single dad, former NASA pilot and corn farmer Matthew McConaughey is our last hope for survival. A "ghost" appears in his daughter's bedroom, appearing to communicate by affecting gravity, and decoding the messages leads our hero to discover the last remnants of NASA, their observations of a wormhole near Saturn, and their journeys through it to planets that might be able to sustain human life. Eventually convinced of the plan's value and necessity, McConaughey agrees to lead a mission through the wormhole himself, leaving his family behind, but hoping to rescue them in the long term. Mike was moved and surprised by Interstellar upon its release in 2014, but on this second viewing moves significantly towards José's unimpressed response, wondering whether it was simply the novelty of seeing new things to which he responded so positively. He compliments the film's scientific literacy, but complains that its dedication to incorporating scientific principles and registers can impede what should be dramatic developments, making them dry and clunky; José, who has no ear for science, finds that it's an irrelevance, unable to tell what might be drawn from reality and what isn't, and feeling that the film doesn't dramatise it well. Everything is rendered through the central family and in particular the father-daughter relationship, strained because of the father's mission, and consistently the film's most important consideration, a little simple considering the global nature of Earth's problems and the countless other families the mission is intended to help. The mission's revelations and problems affect the entire world, and are discussed as such in dialogue, but we feel only the impact on this family - Interstellar speaks of societal problems but doesn't show or dramatise them. Mike argues, though, that that central connection is handled well, the most effective shot, in a film full of startling visuals, one of a father's face looking at his children. We think about the action, and what it lacks. There are plenty of high-concept set pieces, but all seem to miss something in the execution. And we discuss the black hole scene, the design of that space and what it means, and how, while Mike was totally swept up in it upon first viewing, it quickly falls apart. We're glad we've seen Interstellar again, and at the IMAX Digital, the best available screening outside of true IMAX - because our response can't be blamed on watching it on a laptop. We saw it as it should be seen, and emerged disappointed. Oh well. Recorded on 4th August 2020.

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