109. (Re)Learning How to be White: Garrett Bucks [reads] ‘They Can’t Kill Us Until They Kill Us’
2 Pages with MBS - A podcast by Michael Bungay Stanier - Tuesdays
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages One of my favorite questions is simply this: How can I help? The power of it is two-fold. First, it asks the other person to name the help that’s required – that's powerful for them, as it often isn’t totally clear what that is, even to them. The second power – the more important one, in my opinion – is that it disrupts your own assumption that you already know what they need. But, all of this points to a bigger question: How do you best give more to the world than you take? Garrett Bucks is the founder of The Barnraisers Project. It’s just as it sounds: a group of people get together, and collectively build a barn for one of their members. As with all of us, it took Garrett a while to realize what his path should be. Get book links and resources at https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ Garrett reads two pages from ‘They Can’t Kill Us Until They Kill Us’ by Hanif Abdurraqib. [reading begins at 22:35] Hear us discuss: “I spent a whole lot of my career feeling like I had a right to leadership, wherever I went.” [4:00] Being a neighbour. [10:33] | How to unlearn the heroic, individualistic narrative. [14:32] | Sitting with whiteness and using your privilege: “Whiteness is completely made up.” [30:50] | The importance of lowering your altitude: “If the conversation stops at the big picture, we’re just gonna be stuck in that morass.” [37:38]
