89. In All Your Messy Glory: Naomi Shragai, author of ‘The Man Who Mistook His Job for His Life’ [reads] ‘See Under: Love’
2 Pages with MBS - A podcast by Michael Bungay Stanier - Tuesdays
Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com. I’ve resisted therapy for almost all of my 54 years. What changed my mind was reading a book called Mindsight by Dan Siegel, which made me realize that therapy could not only be about fixing what’s broken, but also, around integration - who I am, and who I want to be. Naomi Shragai is a psychotherapist who’s been practicing for over 30 years. She is also a freelance journalist for The Financial Times, and author of The Man Who Mistook His Job for His Life, a book whose genesis is present in the work that she does. Get book links and resources at https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ Naomi reads two pages from ‘See Under: Love’ by David Grossman. [reading begins at 17:37] Hear us discuss: Navigating a relationship with a traumatized or struggling partner. [25:21] | What to do when you don’t have a clue. [26:23] | Can you be human at work?: “Work needs to acknowledge that everyone’s coming in and bringing their messy lives into the workplace; people aren’t leaving them at home.” [28:28] | “Bad things happen, we can’t deny them.” [32:14] | How leaders can make work more human. [32:18] | A conversation with an overachiever. [34:06]
