34. How to Act Like a Leader: Joel Constable, L&D at Intuit x ‘Act Like a Leader, Think Like a Leader’
2 Pages with MBS - A podcast by Michael Bungay Stanier - Tuesdays
I started my career in market research, running focus groups. I was seeking consumer insights so we could find and build new products and services. Then, I moved into the world of leadership training and personal growth. Now I was after insight into myself: who am I? But, perhaps insight is not enough. Perhaps, we also need outsight. Today’s episode is perfect for anyone in the world of learning, development, and self-growth. I am joined by Joel Constable, someone who has been doing L&D for years at some of the most interesting companies in the world - Google, Pinterest and more recently, Intuit, where he is the current Director of Talent Development. Get book links and resources at https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ Joel reads from the book ‘Act Like a Leader, Think Like a Leader’ by Herminia Ibarra. [reading begins at 16:05] Hear us talk about: “When I try to introspect or reflect my way into new behaviours, I’m always going to be confined by what I know and how I’ve thought in the past. I can’t think my way into that, I just need to try new things.” [21:39] | The S-curve in personal development: “What got you here, won’t get you there.” [22:15] | Acting like the person you want to become. [24:17] | Being comfortable with failure and making mistakes. [25:56]
