20. How (and why) to be good-ish: Dolly Chugh x A More Beautiful and Terrible History
2 Pages with MBS - A podcast by Michael Bungay Stanier - Tuesdays
On a scale of 1-10, how good of a person are you? Yeah, tricky question. And even trickier: Is the person you think you are the same as the person who actually shows up, day-to-day, in life? Dolly Chugh, as well as being one of my favourite people, is a professor of social psychology at the NYU Stern School of Business, and author of The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias. Dolly has made it her goal to speak to those of us who label ourselves as good people but may not realise how our unconscious biases affect the way we function. Get book links and resources at https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ Dolly reads from A More Beautiful and Terrible History: The Uses and Misuses of Civil Rights History by Jeanne Theoharis. [reading begins at 11:23] Hear us discuss: Addressing systemic bias: “Unlearning what we know and learning what’s correct makes it easier to see the systems around us.” [21:00] | Learning to unlearn: the ‘paradox mindset.’ [24:19] | Counteracting simple narratives: “You don’t have to believe only one thing.” [27:27]
