42. Cooperation and Competition: Nichola Raihani, author of ‘The Social Instinct’ [reads] ‘On the Origin of Species’
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I’m seven, playing cricket in my backyard in Canberra. I’m batting, my seventy-year-old grandmother is bowling, and I hit an amazing shot. Granny, the most competitive person I have ever met, hurls herself sideways and plucks an amazing catch inches from the ground; I utterly lose my mind. I throw the bat, I cry, I stomp off the field, and I lock myself in my room. Turns out, I was as competitive as my grandmother … and I wasn’t much of a gracious loser. Nichola Raihani is a fan of cooperation and has much to say about its relationship with competition in our everyday lives. Nichola is a Professor of Evolution and Behaviour and a Royal Society University Research Fellow at University College London, and the author of the newly released book, The Social Instinct: How Cooperation Shaped the World. Get book links and resources at https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ Nichola reads two pages from ‘On the Origin of Species’ by Charles Darwin. [reading begins at 25:10] Hear us discuss: Cooperation and competition: “Cooperation is ultimately a form of competition.” [5:36] | Engineering and increasing cooperation. [32:35] | How punishment impacts cooperation: “The threat of punishment can be quite effective to induce cooperation, but when it is actually executed, it can cause cooperation to completely unravel.” [38:00] | “A lot of the time, the reason people are cooperative is because it feels really good to help other people.” [46:41]
